Thinking Stuff's Automated Trading Execution

 
Automated Trading Execution (ATE) is our premium service where we take care of things for you. There are 2 ways we can help (both of which will be launched when v3 is relatively stable):

1. by doing your backtesting; and
2. by doing your automated trading.

 
Let Us Do The Backtesting For You

Your system can be exported from ATM, or just given to us in plain English. What we do is take that trading system, and try to make it better.

You can do that yourself with our ATM product. But there are many reasons why you might want us to do backtesting for you:

• You don't want to spend your own time doing backtesting
• You want a 3rd party's perspective on your trading system
• You want to find out if a system you bought from someone does actually work
• You want your system tweaked by people who are good at tweaking

The $49 you pay could well be a tiny investment for a large return. If we cannot improve your system then you get a 100% refund.

If the trading system is really good and you let us use it, you get a 100% refund.
 

 
Let Us Do The Trading For You

This is where we run your trading systems for you on our servers. Maybe you don't want to bother with the admin involved in automated trading, or maybe you don't have a computer suitable for the job.
 

Your trading systems

Your system can be exported from ATM, or written in plain English and we'll make it for you.

We work with you every step of the way to ensure your trading system is executing exactly as you want it to. However, a trading system you must have. This is not a managed fund. We do all the work, but we follow your instructions.
 

Your trading accounts

All trading is done in your own account(s). This has the following benefits:

• You do not need to transfer your trading funds to us.
• As your broker will only transfer your account balance to another account belonging to you, we have no direct access to your funds. We can trade for you, but we can't withdraw your money.
• You can see exactly what's happening as it happens, just by logging in to your brokerage account.
   

Using a broker that pays us commissions

This is our preferred option. In this way our relationship is win-win, as you will only continue to trade and generate commissions for us if you are making money yourself.

We will give you back 25% of the commissions you earn for us. Trade enough volume and this service will become free. Trade even more and we'll be paying you.
 

Using a broker that doesn't pay us commissions

This is still okay, but as you don't generate any commission for us, there's nothing to give back to you.
 

Trading in your demo account

Trading in your demo account is a vital part of automated trading. We don't just start trading with your real money straight away (unless you specifically tell us to do that). First we trade in your demo account so you can ensure that the trading system is executing correctly.

Once you are satisfied the system is doing what you want, then we start trading in your real account. And that's all nice, and great from a risk-reducing point-of-view. But trading in your demo account does not generate any commissions for us.

So, to balance the fact that demo-trading is necessary but doesn't make us any money, your first payment will cover you for the first 2 months, and then the payments will become monthly after that.
 

Terms

• This is a monthly subscription.
• The number of your trading systems that we agree to run for you will depend on the minimum interval used by the systems in question. Because, for example, a system which uses 5-Second bars uses a lot more resources than one that only uses Daily bars. With the quota outlined below, you'll be allowed a total of 16 trading systems.
  
  

  Minimum interval	Number of systems	If you need more
  5-Second to 2-Minute	1 system	$20 per extra system
  3-Minute to 15-Minute	above plus up to 2 systems	$20 per extra system
  20-Minute to 4-Hour	above plus up to 5 systems	$20 per extra system
  6-Hour to Monthly	above plus up to 8 systems	$20 per extra system

Our promises

• We promise to trade in your demo account until you explicitly give the okay to trade with your real money.
• We promise to work with you, as much as we need to, in order to get the system executing as you want it to.
• We promise to refund your initial payment if we cannot get the system to trade as you want it to in the demo account.
• We promise to ask your permission before making any changes to the system.
   

If your system loses money

We do not guarantee, under any circumstances, that the trading system will be profitable. All we can say is that your success is our success, and we'll do all we can to help you be profitable. But we don't guarantee it. At the end of the day it's your trading system and your decision on how it should work.

But what if other factors make you lose money? We can think of two:

1. Our software has a bug in it, so it trades at a time when you didn't want it to; and
2. Our servers go down, so either an open trade is not managed, or a trade wasn't opened and in hindsight it turns out that the trade would have been profitable.

And I guess you probably knew that we were going to say that we won't accept responsibility for those either. Both of them are just part of the auto-trading game. All software has bugs. Computers crash. Internet connections go down. You'll leave us if these things happen too often, so of course we'll take all care and fix issues that arise. But we can't promise, and no company could promise, that such things will never occur.
 

The cost

US$149 every month (except the first payment covers the first 2 months). However, at the end of every month we will return to you 25% of the commissions that you generated for us. So if you trade enough volume you can use our service for free, and maybe even we'll be paying you.
 

 
Questions?

Head to the forums.

If you have to include private information for us to be able to answer your question, then contact us directly.